07-21-2009 12:53 PM
After reading for a while I don't see this question being answered clearly. I have one of the black X25-M drives and with today's annocement of the silver ones (with a different controller) it mentions that they will support a TRIM update when Windows 7 comes out.
Was curious as I'd rather pay a restocking fee and shipping to send my curent x25 back to the seller and pick up a siler x25 when they are out.
12-08-2009 04:45 PM
Because it has been implied by Intel on numeros occations that Gen. 1 will get it, and they sertainly did not come out and say Gen. 1 would not get TRIM, untill they were discontinued ofcourse and they needed to sell new tech with the same performance, ergo Gen. 1 buyers got misslead. I'll tell you this, an SSD without TRIM does not work like a storagedevice is intended to do, far from it, every written data need to be erased by spesial tools to avoid a rewrite penalty, and a complete wipe is the only way with all the hassle that comes with it... Intel needs to take responsibility for it's actions, and "fanbois" with little clue of the facts in this matter needs to educate themselves before they make statements like yours.....
12-08-2009 05:56 PM
When and where did Intel imply on numerous ocassions that they would be supporting trim on G1?
I've been running a G1 on my home system for the better part of a year now and with current 8820 firmware it feels just as fast as the day I bought it. Sorry I don't get the statement about "an SSD without trim not working like a storage device is intended to" I read and write data to my G1 just like I did with my prior HDD which also slowed as it filled. HDD's face the same problem (but for different reasons) of slowing as they fill.
I agree trim would be nice but I'm not holding Intel's name to fire because I don't have it. Intel never promised me trim on my drive and I accept it as a new feature of a next gen product.
12-08-2009 06:16 PM
It's your right to try to provide analogies as to why Intel needn't do this, but your Windows analogy is flawed: Microsoft is NOT the hard drive vendor. I wager that they WILL provide a TRIM-enabling patch for Vista systems if it means keeping their customers happy: at this point, being a happy Microsoft customer means upgrading to Windows 7, not 'patching' Vista.
The SIGNIFICANT performance degradation over time is the main reason why early adoptors should be supported.
It's the basic principle. Why trust a vendor if they abandon you IMMEDIATELY after the next generation of their product is released? There are still G1 drives in the channel that aren't going to get TRIM support! That is not the way for a company to operate, and unfortunately, there are people with your mindset willing to give them a pass on it. Fortunately, there are 100 of us for every one of you.
Message was edited by: lorax1284&# 13; &# 13; I think everyone with a G1 SSD would like the TRIM firmware upgrade... I bet some would be willing to PAY for the firmware.&# 13; &# 13; &# 13; The fact is I can't go out and buy another FIRMWARE from a competitor to enable TRIM support on my Intel SSD. So, if Intel would consider providing it, maybe charging $25 or something, at least I'd have the option to BUY the firmware. With Microsoft OSes, you can choose to keep using Vista if you're happy, or pay for an upgrade to Windows 7 if you're not happy with Vista... but at least the choice is there.&# 13; &# 13; &# 13; It's fine for Intel to recoup their investment in developing the G1 TRIM-enabled firmware, but it's NOT ok for them to just abandon it altogether.