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G1 trim support

Esteemed Contributor III

Intel, will you ever explain why trim will not be provided for Gen 1 drives? Enthusiasts spend a high premium for new technology that is often problematic and not fully utilisable at first release. Not only do enthusiasts pay a premium they also help iron out teething problems. Now it appears that there is an added price of having support removed.

It just does not make sense to not give trim to gen 1 users and I can imagine that if you are retailer with gen 1 drives it must be hard to shift them.

Is it technically not possible or is it just a short sighted marketing policy?

This year Intel ssd's will no longer be top performers so G1 owners that are unhappy with performance degradation are not likely to get a g2.


Esteemed Contributor III

I read on the "anandtech" website that there was a technical issue. Heck i have 2 of theses gen1s, I will just keep using them until they stop working.

Esteemed Contributor III

Point out where you read that on Anandtech!

If he uttered those words with that meaning, wich I doubt since I've read everything he has written about SSD, he is lying, there is ONLY one reason to abandon Gen. 1 owners, and that is to force them over to Gen. 2, and it stinks... This sentence is from Anand's latest article regarding Intel SSD: "Only the X25-M G2 gets TRIM, the G1 (right) is left in the dust."

As for the technical aspects regarding TRIM on Gen. 1, I have actually seen the technical layout of Gen. 1 SSD's vs. other TRIM SSD's and know a little about FW coding, and I can quarantie everyone that there are no issues at all, so lay this "can not be done" speculation to rest once and for all. There are absolutely just down to the willingness of Intel leaders and Intel coders, period.

As redux and JohnZS so rightfully points out, and me aswell in the past, these politics are just BS, and now that the performance crown seems to tilt towards Sandforce/C300, I for one as a 3 times Gen. 1 owner (2 X25-M 80gb, 1 X25-E 32gb), will NEWER buy Intel SSD again unless they come thru with a TRIM FW to the Gen. 1 SSD's.. As of now, the difference between Gen. 1 and Gen. 2 Mainstream Intel SSD are purely cosmetic (apart from a bit faster seq. write on 160gb models), Intel knew this ofcourse long before release of Gen. 2, and also knew that if they gave TRIM to Gen. 1, those users would stay on those drives. Especially the E model sorely needs TRIM, small expensive and no support, how fun for those of us who payed for the premium on these drives.

I have a month pay worth of Gen. 1 drives more high maintanance then a spoiled teenager in my box, and I'm sick of it, I have HDDErase stuck in my throat, and I will hold out for the mentioned new Sandforce/C300 SSD's, unless Intel somehow sees the light and do the right thing...

I have done everything in my power to pursuade Intel to do the right thing, but every time some clueless and blind "fanbois" screws up the productive discussion, and gives Intel a pass for the most discusting behaviour.. How can common sense be so hard to come by?

New Contributor III
New Contributor III

They don't give a sh*t about their customers, thats why.

Esteemed Contributor III

I would also like to know Intel. A lot of us who purchased the Intel Solid State Drives (Gen1 drives) made our decisions to purchase these drives as we were under the impression that they would be supported BY Intel and that Intel would continue to provide updates for these drives to improve the performance and reliability of the drive.

TRIM is both a performance and reliability improvement which other Solid State Vendors such as OCZ, Corsair and Samsung have been implimenting onto various solid sate drives.

Why has Intel only decided to give those who purchased Gen2 drives this feature?

Surely us who spend a lot of money on Gen1 drives (and at the time were promised firmware updates to improve the performance and reliability of this cutting edge technology) have NOT received a TRIM firmware?

Am I right in assuming that we will get a Firmware within the next few months as the Gen2 drives had bugs which needed fixing?

(I hope so).

Are there any plans to perform TRIM(ing?) on RAID setups? (Perhaps a new Intel RAID Option ROM or Rapid Storage Techology driver will enable this feature?)

A lot of users are experiencing gradual slow downs on their Generation drives and the only way to resolve this issue is to perform a FULL HDD Erase. Which might I add does not do the life cycle of the Solild State Drive any good as you are using lots of write cycles.

To put things simply. TRIM not only enhances the Performance and the Reliability of a Solid State Drive... it also increases it's lifetime.

Please Intel... Release the Firmwares.


Setup some sort of Exchange Programme where Gen1 drive owners can RMA their drives for a Gen2 drive.

Thank you.