topic Re: Why is the Intel 750 Slow to boot? in Solid State Drives (NAND)

Why is the Intel 750 Slow to boot?

RLaBa1 — Wed, 03 Jun 2015 02:43:14 GMT

Howdy Everyone. Just picked up the Intel 750 1.2TB SSD card. Installed it on my X99 Asus Rampage V board and installed Windows 7 X64 without a problem. However, I am seeing a boot performance issue. This drive is taking about 25 seconds to boot, approximately 13 seconds longer than my Samsung 850 EVO. Did a little Googling on this and apparently, I am not the only one. I have read several reviews and the ones that measure boot time / performance will say this is the slowest SSD to boot. I have provided the link below as an example.

http://techreport.com/review/28050/intel-750-series-solid-state-drive-reviewed/5 Intel's 750 Series solid-state drive reviewed - The Tech Report - Page 5

Intel - Is this going to be fixed in a future firmware release? I wont be able to justify keeping this card if first generation SSD's still outperform in terms of booting.

Thanks,

Randman76

X99 Rampage V

I-7 5960X OC to 4.4 ghz

Corsair Vengeance (4x4GB)

980 GTX-SLI

1200W PSU

Re: Why is the Intel 750 Slow to boot?

ASouz7 — Wed, 03 Jun 2015 14:55:07 GMT

Hello Randman76,

Could please let us know what current firmware version you have for this drive?

You can use our Intel® SSD Data Center Tool to check for updates. Here is the link: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/23931/Intel-Solid-State-Drive-Data-Center-Tool Intel® Download Center

Re: Why is the Intel 750 Slow to boot?

ASouz7 — Wed, 03 Jun 2015 14:55:07 GMT

Hello Randman76,

Could please let us know what current firmware version you have for this drive?

You can use our Intel® SSD Data Center Tool to check for updates. Here is the link: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/23931/Intel-Solid-State-Drive-Data-Center-Tool Intel® Download Center

Re: Why is the Intel 750 Slow to boot?

RLaBa1 — Thu, 04 Jun 2015 02:04:15 GMT

Here is the information on the SSD

IntelSSD CVCQ511600A81P2BGN

DeviceStatus: HealthyFirmware: 8EV10135FirmwareUpdateAvailable: Firmware is up to date as of this tool release.ModelNumber: INTEL SSDPEDMW012T4ProductFamily: Intel SSD 750 SeriesSerialNumber: CVCQ511600A81P2BGNIndex: 0DevicePath: \\\\.\\PHYSICALDRIVE0Bootloader: 8B1B012E

Thanks,

Randman76

Re: Why is the Intel 750 Slow to boot?

RLaBa1 — Thu, 04 Jun 2015 02:04:15 GMT

Here is the information on the SSD

IntelSSD CVCQ511600A81P2BGN

Thanks,

Randman76

Re: Why is the Intel 750 Slow to boot?

ASouz7 — Thu, 04 Jun 2015 15:36:35 GMT

Hello Randman76,

Thank you for the information provided. It seems like the Intel® SSD 750 Series drive will take longer to enumerate (therefore boot). This is a combination of longer PCI initialization time (than SATA) and the SSD ensuring a stable boot.

Re: Why is the Intel 750 Slow to boot?

ASouz7 — Thu, 04 Jun 2015 15:36:35 GMT

Hello Randman76,

Re: Why is the Intel 750 Slow to boot?

idata — Fri, 12 Jun 2015 20:03:28 GMT

Goodnight!

Indeed it is a very interesting question, whether via firmware to improve load times and compatibility with Ultra Fast Boot for such a rapid SSD. At least theoretically.

Re: Why is the Intel 750 Slow to boot?

idata — Fri, 12 Jun 2015 20:03:28 GMT

Goodnight!

Indeed it is a very interesting question, whether via firmware to improve load times and compatibility with Ultra Fast Boot for such a rapid SSD. At least theoretically.

Re: Why is the Intel 750 Slow to boot?

BWent — Fri, 26 Jun 2015 21:58:45 GMT

I am experiencing the same thing that Randman76 is and I've heard that enumeration may be the cause and it is good that you've confirmed that. While it is good that we know the cause, I'm interested in understanding when it will be fixed. I'm sure I, like others, did not spend more than $1,000 for this SSD to have it run slower in any respect.

Re: Why is the Intel 750 Slow to boot?

BWent — Fri, 26 Jun 2015 21:58:45 GMT

Re: Why is the Intel 750 Slow to boot?

jbenavides — Fri, 26 Jun 2015 23:59:25 GMT

Hello,

Please review the following thread for information about the most common causes for slow performance with the Intel® SSD 750 Series:

1. The https://downloadcenter.intel.com/search?keyword=Intel%C2%AE+SSD+750+Series Intel® Solid-State Drive Data Center Family for PCIe Drivers should be used. The Inbox driver from Windows will let you use the drive, but the performance difference is noticeable.

2. The PCIe link speed and bandwidth may not be the ones recommended for the Intel® SSD 750. This drive requires PCIe Gen 3.0 x4 (four lanes) to operate according to specifications.

You can check the related thread for details and recommendations.

Re: Why is the Intel 750 Slow to boot?

jbenavides — Fri, 26 Jun 2015 23:59:25 GMT

Hello,

Please review the following thread for information about the most common causes for slow performance with the Intel® SSD 750 Series:

2. The PCIe link speed and bandwidth may not be the ones recommended for the Intel® SSD 750. This drive requires PCIe Gen 3.0 x4 (four lanes) to operate according to specifications.

You can check the related thread for details and recommendations.

Re: Why is the Intel 750 Slow to boot?

BWent — Sat, 27 Jun 2015 01:59:10 GMT

Hello Jonathan. The drive is in a PCIe Gen 3.0 slot x4 as reported by the SSD Toolbox and I also have the latest Intel NVMe driver installed. The issue is it's poor boot performance since it performs well enough once the system is running. What are Intel's plans to address the boot issue?

Re: Why is the Intel 750 Slow to boot?

BWent — Sat, 27 Jun 2015 01:59:10 GMT

Re: Why is the Intel 750 Slow to boot?

RLaBa1 — Mon, 29 Jun 2015 21:44:45 GMT

Jonathan - I would also have to agree that my card is occupied in an PCIE GEN 3.0 slot. As dBannon pointed out, once booted in Windows it performs great, I get the advertised speed / performance. It is the actual boot process that is slow. Let me give you more details on what I am experiencing....

1. I power up the motherboard.

2. I receive the Asus Post Screen

3. I receive the Windows 7 startup screen and the Widows flag begins to animate.

4. Once the Windows flag fully appears on the screen, both the amber and green lights on the SSD go out. A few seconds later, the green light comes back on followed by the Amber light and the SSD continues to boot.

That entire process on step# 4 takes approximately 12-13 seconds (twice the time by last SSD took to boot)

This issue is not isolated to just a few users, This is something that "The Tech Report", who previously reviewed this drive was able to duplicate.

http://techreport.com/review/28050/intel-750-series-solid-state-drive-reviewed/5 Intel's 750 Series solid-state drive reviewed - The Tech Report - Page 5

According to the previous tech, aleki_intel, this is a known issue. The question is, what is Intel going to do about it?

I look forward to your response.

Thank you,

Randman76

Re: Why is the Intel 750 Slow to boot?

RLaBa1 — Mon, 29 Jun 2015 21:44:45 GMT

1. I power up the motherboard.

2. I receive the Asus Post Screen

3. I receive the Windows 7 startup screen and the Widows flag begins to animate.

That entire process on step# 4 takes approximately 12-13 seconds (twice the time by last SSD took to boot)

This issue is not isolated to just a few users, This is something that "The Tech Report", who previously reviewed this drive was able to duplicate.

http://techreport.com/review/28050/intel-750-series-solid-state-drive-reviewed/5 Intel's 750 Series solid-state drive reviewed - The Tech Report - Page 5

According to the previous tech, aleki_intel, this is a known issue. The question is, what is Intel going to do about it?

I look forward to your response.

Thank you,

Randman76

Re: Why is the Intel 750 Slow to boot?

jbenavides — Tue, 30 Jun 2015 00:12:59 GMT

We are aware of the longer initialization process with the Intel® SSD 750 Series, but you can be sure our engineers are continuously working on ways to improve this.

It is advised to check regularly for updates to the Intel® Solid-State Drive Data Center Family for PCIe Drivers (currently 1.2.0.1002), and also make sure you have the most recent firmware for your SSD, this can be done using Intel® Solid-State Drive Data Center Tool or Download Intel® Solid-State Drive Toolbox.

The most recent versions are available at thehttps://downloadcenter.intel.com/search?keyword=Intel%C2%AE+SSD+750+Series Intel® SSD 750 Series Download Center.

Additionally, we recommend to keep the BIOS of your motherboard up to date.

Re: Why is the Intel 750 Slow to boot?

jbenavides — Tue, 30 Jun 2015 00:12:59 GMT

We are aware of the longer initialization process with the Intel® SSD 750 Series, but you can be sure our engineers are continuously working on ways to improve this.

The most recent versions are available at thehttps://downloadcenter.intel.com/search?keyword=Intel%C2%AE+SSD+750+Series Intel® SSD 750 Series Download Center.

Additionally, we recommend to keep the BIOS of your motherboard up to date.

Re: Why is the Intel 750 Slow to boot?

JAust1 — Sat, 04 Jul 2015 15:01:45 GMT

Hi!

I worry about this too. Is this phenomena only with the PCIe slot version of the Intel 750 SSD, or is it with the SFF-8639 version too?

If this isn't fixed I'd have to choose some one else, like the Samsung XS1715.