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    <title>topic Re: The intel toolbox can't run optimizer in Archive</title>
    <link>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6153#M6015</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Stunt,  Welcome to the flaky Marvell interface club, from what I've read on various forums, that chip causes more grief for users than anything else I can think of.  Your symptoms are typical, it works fine for a while and then just stops.  Then there are the people that set up RAID arrays with it, and you can imagine what happens next.   The fact that this interface is seen as SCSI by Windows is not necessarily a bad thing, but I am not sure if that is really correct, or what the other implications of that are.  A big problem with the Marvell interface is the lack of documentation for it, Marvell provides next to nothing and apparently expects the mother board manufactures to provide all the support.  Still, many mother board manufactures still use it despite the headaches it must give their support staff, as well as causing their products to look bad, IMO.  Regardless, I can't help but think that there is something we are missing when using this interface, and I don't know what that is.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regarding the Toolbox error message, as you discovered, the error message had nothing to do with the reality of the situation.  The problem is, error checking is done in the software of course, and that code is not all-knowing and aware of everything (HAL, enable the SATA ports HAL... HAL! &lt;I&gt; I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that, you don't have the correct firmware...&lt;/I&gt;) so it's possible that the default or final error message in the code when the error condition is not recognized is the one you are receiving.  Unfortunately some people interpret that message as reality, and start on a firmware quest, whereas you were smart enough to know better.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Believe me, you are not suffering any performance loss by using the Intel SATA interface, it will allow your SSD to operate at the absolute real-world limit of the SATA 3Gb/s interface.  For the absolute best performance with the Intel SATA interface, if your ASRock board has the Intel ICH10R chip, you can install the Intel IRST driver (their RAID driver) for that chip, and set your SATA mode to AHCI or RAID in the BIOS.  I tested my Intel 80GB G2 SSD with AS SSD Benchmark on the Intel ICH10R and the Marvell 9128 chip's SATA 6Gb/s interface, and the score was better by about 10% on the Intel interface.  It's also possible to install the MS Windows 7 msahci driver on the Marvell chipset.  I haven't done this myself, and you would lose the RAID capability on the Marvell 9128 chip (the Marvell 9120 chip does not support RAID) but using the MS driver might help with the Marvell's flaky behavior.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I've been using the Intel P67 chipset on a new board I have, and it's SATA 6Gb/s interface has worked flawlessly for me.  In testing with AS SSD Benchmark, I got the best score I've ever seen with any of my Intel 80GB G2 SSDs, albeit by a small amount.  It's not magic, but I think I am at the limits of what those SSDs can do in a non-RAID configuration with the P67 chip and the Intel IRST driver.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 19:07:06 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>idata</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-04-01T19:07:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>The intel toolbox can't run optimizer</title>
      <link>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6098#M5960</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have a x25-v ssd and installed it with win7. I have installed the toolbox but it can't run optimizer. Does anybody know it?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 03:22:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6098#M5960</guid>
      <dc:creator>idata</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-08-30T03:22:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The intel toolbox can't run optimizer</title>
      <link>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6099#M5961</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Same issue here. G2 disk, latest firmware and the toolbox stilll says not supported. I am running Win7 but I am attaching the disk to a sata3 controller on an Asus p6x58d-e in AHCI mode (not RAID mode).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Worked fine on previous install, ata mode, also Win 7 so whats the issue? The Sata 3 controller?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 19:17:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6099#M5961</guid>
      <dc:creator>idata</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-09-11T19:17:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The intel toolbox can't run optimizer</title>
      <link>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6100#M5962</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Argh, going to answer myself and facepalm a bit as I should have read a bit more. No need to run this optimiser when the system is in AHCI mode apparently.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 19:19:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6100#M5962</guid>
      <dc:creator>idata</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-09-11T19:19:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The intel toolbox can't run optimizer</title>
      <link>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6101#M5963</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;what is the ssd toolbox version u used?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 05:44:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6101#M5963</guid>
      <dc:creator>idata</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-09-16T05:44:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The intel toolbox can't run optimizer</title>
      <link>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6102#M5964</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;People all say this as you said but why it doesn't work?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:51:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6102#M5964</guid>
      <dc:creator>idata</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-09-16T11:51:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The intel toolbox can't run optimizer</title>
      <link>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6103#M5965</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;It is 1.3. It should be the new.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:51:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6103#M5965</guid>
      <dc:creator>idata</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-09-16T11:51:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The intel toolbox can't run optimizer</title>
      <link>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6104#M5966</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I can NOT run the new optimizer that comes with toolbox 2.0.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have an x25 160 gb running on an Asus M4AGTDPROUSB3 running on a SATA 3 port.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I can run the old optimizer that comes with toolbox 1.3.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have uninstalled toolbox 2.0 and gone back to 1.3 but I would like to know why this is happening. Why does the old one work but not the new one??&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:26:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6104#M5966</guid>
      <dc:creator>idata</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-09-16T22:26:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The intel toolbox can't run optimizer</title>
      <link>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6105#M5967</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;what if u run SSD toolbox 2.0 on a SATA  2 port? will it work?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:26:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6105#M5967</guid>
      <dc:creator>idata</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-09-17T01:26:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The intel toolbox can't run optimizer</title>
      <link>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6106#M5968</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you for your information. the ver 2.0 find 2 problems of my PC. The 1 is superfetch must be disabled and the other 1 is volume shadow copy must be enabled. But the optimization still failed again and again after I done the 2 items. I think the software is still young. They need to upgrade it. It should tell us why it fails.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2010 02:13:46 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6106#M5968</guid>
      <dc:creator>idata</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-09-18T02:13:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The intel toolbox can't run optimizer</title>
      <link>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6107#M5969</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have the same problem too~&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 11:03:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6107#M5969</guid>
      <dc:creator>idata</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-09-22T11:03:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The intel toolbox can't run optimizer</title>
      <link>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6108#M5970</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Same problem, SSD Optimizer v2.0 cites "This tool is not supported on the selected drive" (the selected drive is a new X25-V G2, with the latest firmware).  A drive which, according to Intel's documentation, should be supported.  However, unlike most of the posters on this thread, I have it installed on an older AMD based machine (Tyan K8WE) with Windows XP Pro (32 bit), which shouldn't matter.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I believe this is a problem with SSD Toolbox v2.0 and not the actual drive. The error seemed to suggest that the SSD Optimizer identifies all x25-v as containing 50nm NAND chips (the x25-v with 50nm NAND does not support TRIM) despite the second generation (G2) versions of this drive containing 32nm NAND chips and supporting TRIM.  Unfortunately I cannot find a copy of SSD Toolbox v1.3 to test this theory.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 22:49:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6108#M5970</guid>
      <dc:creator>idata</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-09-24T22:49:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The intel toolbox can't run optimizer</title>
      <link>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6109#M5971</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have the ver 1.3. If you need it, I can send you.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 11:48:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6109#M5971</guid>
      <dc:creator>idata</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-09-25T11:48:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The intel toolbox can't run optimizer</title>
      <link>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6110#M5972</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Same problem here.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I also have the X25-V 40GB and tried to use toolbox 1.3 without succes, nothing was selectable.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Upgraded the firmware to 2CV102HD , still nothing in v 1.3&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Installed v2.01 , but i'm still unable to select the drive, the screen just refreshes and no option is availlable.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Using this drive on a Asrock Penryn1600SLI-110DB with NVIDIA NFORCE chipset.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2010 10:46:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6110#M5972</guid>
      <dc:creator>idata</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-10-26T10:46:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The intel toolbox can't run optimizer</title>
      <link>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6111#M5973</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks for sharing.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2010 12:24:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6111#M5973</guid>
      <dc:creator>idata</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-10-26T12:24:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The intel toolbox can't run optimizer</title>
      <link>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6112#M5974</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt; Optimizer won't run with Nivida chipset.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2010 19:32:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6112#M5974</guid>
      <dc:creator>RGiff</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-10-26T19:32:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The intel toolbox can't run optimizer</title>
      <link>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6113#M5975</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm glad I found this place and see that I'm not alone with this issue. I didn't want to create a new thread, so I figured I would bump this topic.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt; So I was having the same issue with trying to run the latest version of the SSD Toolbox (2.0.1) and trying to use the optomizer. Originally I got the "This tool is not supported on the selected drive" message for my G2 160gb ssd (updated with the latest firmware of course). I am running it on an ASUS P6X58D Premium board and running the drive in AHCI mode. I had the SSD connected to a SATA 3 6gb port, but once I switched the port to a normal SATA 2 connection it was able to run the problem with no problem. So that was my issue and I guess I have to deal with switching to a different SATA port each time I want to run the optimizer.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I recently installed the new 120gb drive on a friend's system using the same motherboard and connected it to the SATA 3 port and it ran with no problem. So there seems to be multiple reasons why this doesn't seem to work for some people, and I hope it's something that can be sorted out in the next version of the SSD Toolbox.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 20:06:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6113#M5975</guid>
      <dc:creator>idata</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-11-22T20:06:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The intel toolbox can't run optimizer</title>
      <link>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6114#M5976</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Its likely down to you having installed the Marvell driver that may not yet support TRIM uninstall this and use MS AHCI driver.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But your better off on the Intel SATA II ports for the SSD as you wouldn't get better performance by using a SATA 3 port anyway it only just max out SATA II ports as it is.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 20:38:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6114#M5976</guid>
      <dc:creator>idata</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-11-22T20:38:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The intel toolbox can't run optimizer</title>
      <link>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6115#M5977</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I don't think it's a driver issue since the toolbox runs all other functions but the optimizer and as I said the optimizer works fine on the 120gb drive using the same motherboard and port. I might just use the SATA II point permanantly, I was mainly using the SATA III port as a place holder for when Intel eventually releases Sata 3 drives.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;On another point, do we need to run optimizer regularly if we are using Windows 7 with TRIM enabled?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 20:50:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6115#M5977</guid>
      <dc:creator>idata</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-11-22T20:50:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The intel toolbox can't run optimizer</title>
      <link>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6116#M5978</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;If you can't run optimizer TRIM can't work optimizer works by using TRIM.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 21:07:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6116#M5978</guid>
      <dc:creator>idata</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-11-22T21:07:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The intel toolbox can't run optimizer</title>
      <link>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6117#M5979</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I just wish the toolbox can tell us why we can't run the optimizer...&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:14:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.solidigm.com/t5/archive/the-intel-toolbox-can-t-run-optimizer/m-p/6117#M5979</guid>
      <dc:creator>idata</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-11-23T13:14:37Z</dc:date>
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