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SSD Toolbox for Mac?

idata — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:37:46 GMT

Are there any plans for a SSD Toolbox for Mac?

The SSD Toolbox for Windows does not support HFS+ (the Mac file system), so even if run on a Boot Camp Windows installation next to Mac OS X it does not optimize Mac partitions using TRIM... 😞

Re: SSD Toolbox for Mac?

idata — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:46:10 GMT

I would rather ask Apple to implement the ATA command TRIM into OSX.

Re: SSD Toolbox for Mac?

idata — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:57:56 GMT

It's quite clear that the burden is now on Apple's side - they have to update the drivers.

The only other option for the time being is to use Disk Utility, and do do a full/secure erase option that writes the partition with 1s and restore the partition from backup such as Time Machine - doesn't take too long for me.

The other option is not to care about write performance so much and enjoy other benefits of SSD - read speed, silence, no moving parts etc.

Re: SSD Toolbox for Mac?

idata — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:09:01 GMT

xchaotic,

I read somewhere that using Disk-Utility secure erase is not the same as doing a ATA Secure Erase.

Re: SSD Toolbox for Mac?

idata — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:29:17 GMT

Exactly, the disk utility's disk erase does not tell the disk that the data on the disk can be overwritten without the usual read-modify-flash-write procedure and thus, the write speed should not increase just by overwriting the disk with 0's (this is what disk utility does) and rebuilding the data from a second disk.

I agree that Apple should add TRIM support for Mac OS X and indeed there seems to be at least one person at Apple who's considering:

"We're currently investigating TRIM support." (http://lists.apple.com/archives/darwin-dev/2009/Oct/msg00158.html)But as long as the SSDs Apple is selling in their MacBooks do not support the TRIM command, I won't bet that we will be seeing TRIM support in Mac OS X anytime soon...

Re: SSD Toolbox for Mac?

idata — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:24:08 GMT

What's stopping Intel from providing support for their SSDs in OS X, via a utility?

Surely it can't be seriously argued that Apple will prevent Intel from providing TRIM functionality via a utility because it sells Samsung SSDs in its largely Intel computers...?

Certainly, I agree that it's ideal to have OS-level support. But, I think the minimum acceptable level of support is for Intel to provide even a basic command-line utility that a user can run the TRIM command on HFS+ volumes with. In fact, I wouldn't be opposed to a bootable USB keychain device image containing such a utility. Anything is preferable to the current situation with absurd kludge like periodically writing an entire drive with 1s.

Re: SSD Toolbox for Mac?

idata — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 23:00:43 GMT

Hello,

I am another proud owner of an Intel X25-M Postville SSD and I am currently using it in my macbook. I would really like to see the Intel SSD Toolbox being able to deal with Snow Leopard!

Re: SSD Toolbox for Mac?

idata — Tue, 12 Apr 2011 07:51:11 GMT

You would like to have trim on Mac

here you go : http://www.groths.org/?p=313 http://www.groths.org/?p=313

Re: SSD Toolbox for Mac?

idata — Thu, 14 Apr 2011 02:28:53 GMT

Does intel x25 have trash collection in the firmware? I have read that if your ssd does then then above software for mac will actually slow you down

Re: SSD Toolbox for Mac?

vt5 — Fri, 22 Apr 2011 07:21:53 GMT

from my understanding, it do garbage collection at the background